harveya

The Top 10 Reasons Why No Man Has Ever Set Foot on the Moon:

http://216.26.168.193/moonmovie/default.asp?ID=7

and If that didnt convince you........

http://www.moonmovie.com/moonmovie/intro.html

"You want me to knock you in the head"

PurdueDoubleE

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PurdueDoubleE

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/apollohoax.html

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/sibrel.html

Mothrog

You've got to be kidding me. And better yet, you think we're going to buy a DVD about some nutty assed conspiracy theory to prove your theory for you?

cathryn

it's ok, because we're going back. apparently we have nothign to do here anymore, and lots of money to spend?

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harveya

First of all I dont want you to buy anything. Im not making any money with this.

Second this guy says he spent 8 years on it, surely hes entitled to compensation.

and No I do not own and will not buy this myself, But we havent been to the moon

PurdueDoubleE

Did you know they forgot to put the word "gullible" in the dictionary?

harveya

President Clinton in his 2004 autobiography, My Life, records a peculiar revelation in regard to this widely held belief. He states on page 156:



Just a month before, Apollo 11 astronauts Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong had left their colleague, Michael Collins, aboard spaceship Columbia and walked on the moon, beating by five months President Kennedy's goal of putting a man on the moon before the decade was out. The old carpenter asked me if I really believed it happened. I said sure, I saw it on television. He disagreed; he said that he didn't believe it for a minute, that "them television fellers" could make things look real that weren't. Back then, I thought he was a crank. During my eight years in Washington, I saw some things on TV that made me wonder if he wasn't ahead of his time.

Mothrog

The guy could have saved himself a lot of time by picking up a freshman physics book. The bullshit surrounding the moon conspiracy crapola's full of such bad science it's amazing anyone buys it, particularly a science student.

[/QUOTE]and No I do not own and will not buy this myself, But we havent been to the moon[/QUOTE]

Believe that if you want, but we've been to the moon, and the moon hoax crap's full of gaping holes.



They guy also bought that Air Force One was tagged.



Whopdeedoo! A guy said he didn't believe it, and Clinton thought it might be possible to fake it. What the hell does that prove, other then Clinton's an even dimmer bulb then I thought him originally?

harveya

I know that when we were little we were all told that this event happened but the government has lied before and evidence is evidence.

If you care to argue a specific point then go right ahead if not then contiue to buy into the garbage that we've all been fed

PurdueDoubleE

The links I posted do a fantastic job of doing just that.

harveya

Every link I have clicked on is dead Ill keep trying for you though

PurdueDoubleE

Well here's one to start with: http://www.braeunig.us/space/hoax.htm

Mothrog

So, just because someone had early success means they'll continue to be first? Nope, sorry.



It wasn't retouched. The image was scanned from a print, and when the print was made, a fiber or hair got in the way. The C is not in the original negative.

http://www.lunaranomalies.com/c-rock.htm



Just because the lunar lander was CAPABLE of 10,000 lb of thrust does not mean the lander was putting out the full 10,000 lb of thrust at the time of landing. Had it been using thrust full throttle, it wouldn't have landed. In reality, the thruster was throttled down to 3,000 lb as it neared the surface and then extinguished within a few feet of the moon. The moon's surface also is made of lunar regolith, a material that has the interesting property that the particles are jagged, making the particles interlock and act more like a solid then dust.



That would be true, if the surface was perfectly flat and the distance was not so great that they began to converge. The surface shown in the link you posted has OBVIOUS curvature.



Out of context, the statement doesn't really mean much. he could have meant that he didn't deserve the credit, that the people that got him there did. I'd also love to see this suit threat, because I doubt it exists.



The space shuttle was designed for low earth orbit, not to go to the moon. The Van Allen belts are also not uniformly distributed and are mostly centered about the magnetic equator. Go to the outer edges, and the radiation is much lower. Add in *gasp* shielding, and you're fine.



Uh, OK. A statement with no proof is not worth anything. What, specifically, would rule out such action?



Uh, no. The only substantial heat transfer mechanism in space in radiation. If you use reflective surface, like, oh, say polished metal or nice white space suits, most of the heat gets reflected away.



Gee, I don't know. Perhaps because NASA's a lot more cautious now and the space shuttle's a BIT more complex then a rocket?



They can claim all they want, but if they don't show the footage nor verify its authenticity, that claim's absolutely worthless.

Do you really want to keep embarrassing yourself or shall I continue?

harveya

Please continue.......

It honestly amusing to see you defending your government in such a way.

Im loving every word of your meaningless banter

Mothrog

I need somethiing to refute then. Nothing more amusing then a science student that doesn't understand science. Also amusing that you have no response.

TheLegendaryNAS

To said Dumbass:

Uh.........yeah, whatever. Kthxbye

PurdueDoubleE

Ok harveya, tell me this: if it's so obvious to anyone looking at this critically, that we didn't land on the moon, why is this not being vociferously pointed out by every single scientist in the world outside of America, especially with the recent surge of anti-American sentiment abroad? You can't attribute their denial of the hoax to blind patriotism, so what is it? Maybe they all are just buying into the myth, and these crackpot conspiracy theorists know something that all those scientists don't?

sean

My great uncle drove the tractors that took the Saturn V's out to their launch pad. He saw the crew of Apollo 11 get on board and blast off for the moon. We landed there, end of story.

Edit: My great uncle, in addition to one of the crew members of Apollo 11, is a Purdue grad. Doesn't that give them some credibility in your eyes?

twittyy4000

the world is also flat...

thought every one should know that.

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harveya

I have no respose because I have other things to do then check a board all night, get a life, discover a hobby, get laid, anything. Im sure you will quickly respond to this but I will have once again moved on with my life.

second of all if we have been I dont wanna hear about moon theories that could only be substantiated if we have indeed been there. All scientist assume that we have and take the moon landing at face value. And thank you for pointing out the flat earth. Scientists are not always right. it was not until someone questioned the church's teaching of a flat earth did we learn otherwise. And as a scientist I take nothing at face value and want substantial evidence to back things up.

NASA has a team of the most brilliant minds around and they know how the moon and its environment is "supposed" to act. It would be easy for them to fake a moon landing. I believe that all of the minds in that room could have pulled off the biggest hoax in human history. and there are just a few common sense questions posed by this conspiracy theory.

1) How is it possible that some 30 - 40 years ago we made several trips into space and no one was killed. While with all of our newly advanced technology we have lost so many in recent years.

2) If we have been there before why are we just now headed back?

3) Im supposed to believe we went 240,000 miles in 1969. However, since 1972 no one has gone more than 400 miles from the Earth. Explain that away.
Surely we could have been looking into putting some real estate on the moon. (space stations or labs for anyone who is a little slow)

4) You know that there was a cold war going on is it completely unlikely that we lied to scare the Russians into believing that we had superior technology.

5) Here is a did you know: it is a federal crime for a civilian to be in possession of an Apollo moon rock, so how can there truly be independent verification?

6) Isn't it at least suspicious that as soon as Russia got radar technology (ability to track the ships we had flying) we cancelled the remaining missions.

6) How were we so far ahead of schedule back then, with less technology, when we havent made on on time launch in years.

Dont come at me with NASA information when the people who supposedly landed on the moon wont put their hand on a bible and say they have been there.

Did you see that man take off? HAHAHAHAHA

"The likelihood of one individual being right increases in direct proportion to the intensity to which others are trying to prove him wrong."
- - Harry Segall

PurdueDoubleE

Your persistence - and ignorance - is amazing. I highly suggest that you actually read the links I posted. They offer a complete and thorough debunking of this nonsense.



Because environmental regulations coupled with arrogance and negligence caused NASA to put their astronauts at unnecessary risk under the Space Shuttle program. "Newly advanced technology"? The Space Shuttle is using 70s technology. This is a great example of just how simplistic and parochial your arguments are, to make a comment like that.



No reason that can justify the cost. Please. This is terrible evidence that the landings were faked.



See #2. What reason do they have to go more than 400 miles? Real estate on the moon would be prohibitively expensive with the other things our government feels the need to spend money on, and it's not really necessary.



Yes it is unlikely that we lied, because we actually DID have superior technology.



Probably.

harveya

I posted 10 min ago you really dont have anything better to do

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

PurdueDoubleE

I'm surprised it took me 4 hours to reduce you to cheap insults.